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An evening of football chat from the Scoular glory years

The Trust has organised an evening of great soccer chat on Thursday, January 22nd (7.30 for 8pm) at the Llandaff Institute in Llandaff, Cardiff.

Top sports writer, Peter Jackson, who reported on Cardiff City for the South Wales Echo, during the Jimmy Scoular glory years, will be talking about those days and he has some fascinating and funny stories to tell of his times working with Jimmy.

Peter will be in conversation with one of the legendary players from that era, Gary Bell and club historian, Richard Shepherd.

Richard will also be bringing along a file of classic photographs relating to that famous European Cup Winners’ Cup trip to Tashkent in 1968. It is hoped we will also be able to show a short film of the Torpedo Moscow trip.

The board has decided that entry will be free for all fans, although we hope you will sign up as a Trust member on the night.

Limited places are available so admission will be on a first come, first served basis. If you would like to attend you must register with your name and any guests by emailing members@ccfctrust.org.

We look forward to seeing you on the night.

The unfulfilled promises of Vincent Tan on converting club debt into equity

The Trust again raised the issue of converting debt into equity in its open letter yesterday to club owner, Vincent Tan. Board member Keith Morgan, who is a football finance expert, looks back on some of the promises made by the owner of Cardiff City and his executives that have yet to be fulfilled.

In a BBC Wales interview July 18, 2013, when Mr Tan was awarded his honorary degree from University of South Wales, he stated clearly that he was “days away” from a settlement with Langston and that if the deal could be done he would “convert ALL my loans to equity”. In the same interview, he said, he was owed £120m at that time so he promised to convert at least such a total (not the later £50m). https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-23362625

That is also a bit of a mystery as in  the May 31, 2013, audited accounts it shows Mr Tan as being owed £66m in loans and £6m in shares , so a total of £72m , not the £120m he claims he was owed just 7 weeks later.

On January 12, 2014 Sky Sports News quotes club chairman Mehmet Dalman as saying “I don’t think club supporters should be worried”. “We want to get rid of the debt by converting to equity” and “that means Vincent Tan will own this club 98% and it will have no debt”. https://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11704/9112671/cardiff-citys-debt-has-risen-to-118million-according-to-club-accounts

In the meeting with fans’ representativees on March 20, 2014, (reported by WalesOnline) Mr Tan himself said he would be converting once the Malky dispute had been settled https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/vincent-tan-not-convert-debt-6854784

On May 11, 2014, Mr Tan quotes “the club owes me maybe £120m and I put in £140m or £150m. Maybe I will convert £50m and leave £100m debt”. Contradicts previous full conversion promises and also only the May 2014 accounts when released will show what he was owed when he said this. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27358728

In a WalesOnline article by Steve Tucker dated  May 15, 2014 he lists quotes by the club and by Mr Tan himself promising a full debt to equity conversion. Mr Tan had recently moved the goalposts saying that he might now only convert £50m of the £150m that he claimed he was owed. https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cardiff-city-debt-crisis-vincent-7127908

NOTE: As far back as a meeting of shareholders held in July 2011 there was a resolution passed from  Mr Tan and his fellow Malaysian investors to convert £5.1m of loans into shares. It never happened.

In April, 2014, accountant Keith Morgan explained the difference between debt and equity which we reproduce below for the information of fans.

DEBT OR EQUITY – WHAT DOES IT MATTER TO CARDIFF CITY?

Many people have raised the issue of Vincent Tan`s continued delay in carrying out his promise  , made publicly on several occasions , to convert all of the loans he has made to the football club into shares and to make the club debt free.

Some fans are of the view that it makes no difference on the basis that “he only owes the money to himself” now that he holds a significant majority of shares in the club`s parent company. However, unfortunately, this is simply not the case.

As long as Vincent Tan continues to be a creditor of the company then it gives him two significant powers.

1)     To control the board of directors by appointing the majority of the holding company board – Malaysian employees of his who can simply outvote the UK directors – even though Vincent Tan is not officially a director himself (although under UK insolvency law , should the company enter a formal insolvency, he would be regarded as one because of that control he exerts).

2)     More importantly, he can demand his money back at any time as it is not a term loan to be repaid over a period of time, but is repayable on demand like an overdraft. There appears to be a wide disparity between Vincent Tan`s own claims that he is owed £70m to £80m by the club and the claims of the Chairman Mehmet Dalman that Vincent Tan has put in up to £140m.

Whichever figure is correct. the club simply does not have the money to repay it even with a sell-off of a lot of players and Vincent Tan taking all the end of season Sky TV payment plus next season`s first instalment of “parachute” payment. (The football authorities may not allow this to happen anyway if they believe the club may fold financially as a result and hold on to the money until the position is clear).

If Vincent Tan honours his promise to convert all debt into shares, then he is no longer owed any money and can make no demand for repayment from the club. His outlet for recovering his money would then be a sale of his shares to a new investor. Two other routes are NOT available to him in the foreseeable future.

1)     A float on a Stock Exchange, either in the UK or Singapore or Malaysia. The club simply does not qualify for such a float due to its record of financial losses and lack of growth potential ( a relegation would half the club`s income while as it would have to finish well up the Premier League on a consistent basis to significantly improve this season` income level). The inability of the club to follow this route was confirmed by the Chairman at a recent meeting with supporters` representatives.

2)     Paying himself back with big share dividends each year. This would be a breach of UK law as companies are only able to do so out of cumulative profits – i.e. all of the £millions of losses from past years would have to be cleared first. The recently amended budgeted profit for the current season is about £12m even playing at the top level with all the Sky income that entails, so it would take ages for this to happen.

So Vincent Tan sticking to his promise to convert all his debt into shares does make a difference to the club`s financial stability – a very big difference. I am sure that most fans hope that he will honour that promise as soon as practicable as it was first promised to be done when the Langston debt was settled, which happened several months ago.

Trust’s new year plea to Vincent Tan

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The Trust today issued the following message to the owner of Cardiff City. The letter has been sent to chief executive, Ken Choo, asking him to pass on the contents to Mr Tan.

An Open Letter to Vincent Tan from Cardiff City Supporters’ Trust

Dear Mr Tan,

We are writing to you to once again raise issues of concern to fans of Cardiff City Football Club.

First of all, we would stress that supporters recognise and are grateful for the considerable investment you have made in our football club.

However, ever since the decision was taken more than two-and-a-half years ago to rebrand our club, it has created division within the fan base with many supporters feeling that the changes completely ignored the club’s long history and traditions.

To repair bridges we believe that there must be a return to playing in blue at home for the next season, along with a return to the traditional club badge that was removed at the rebranding.

All the main Cardiff City supporter groups will show the strength of feeling on these issues by joining together on Saturday, January 31st, 2015, to march to the stadium to deliver a letter to the club requesting a change back to Cardiff City’s traditional blue home kit with Bluebird badge for the 2015-16 season.

The request is supported by all major fan groups including The Cardiff City Supporters’ Trust, The Cardiff City Supporters Club, Cardiff City Forum, Cardiff City Online, Bluebirds Unite and even Bluebirds Down Under.

Committed fans, who have in many cases followed the club for decades, feel disenfranchised and have told us that they are considering not renewing their season tickets at the end of the season – unless there is a return to blue. We dearly hope that such a boycott can be avoided.

We believe that unless changes are made the division between the fans and our club will only grow. Your executives in Cardiff will confirm that the stadium is overwhelmingly blue at every home match. The fans of Cardiff City have given their verdict.

It is wrong of you to say as you recently did in an interview with Sky Sports that, “At the time everyone agreed.” There was no consultation with fans. The change of colour was presented to us as a fait accompli. Earlier this year you said you would consider reversing the rebrand. It now seems that despite the supporters continuing discontent with the changes, you have now shut down any suggestion of dialogue or compromise with the fans.

As you may be aware the main political parties in the UK are looking at ensuring there is greater supporter involvement in clubs and will be including proposals for legislation in their manifestos for the 2015 UK General Election.

The Trust believes that the club has the opportunity to lead the way and we urge you to consider appointing an elected supporter director to the board as a priority.

We are also concerned that the pledges made by yourself to convert the debt owed by the club to you into equity have yet to be realised. We would be grateful if you could make a firm commitment on the conversion of the debt.

As you will be aware, a key to the success of any business is the loyalty of its customers, in this case the fans. It is vital that everyone at Cardiff City, fans, players, the manager and yourself, is pulling in the same direction as the club strives to return to the Premier League.

We hope you will respond positively to our letter with a view to taking everyone who believes in Cardiff City F.C. forward together.

Yours sincerely,

Tim Hartley

Chair, Cardiff City Supporters’ Trust

December 31st, 2014

City fans’ groups join together for Return to Blue protest

JonCandy1927Members of all main Cardiff City supporter groups will join together on Saturday, January 31st (2pm ) and march from Canton to the Cardiff City Stadium to deliver a letter to the club, formally requesting a change back to Cardiff City’s traditional blue home kit with Bluebird badge for the 2015-16 season.

The request is supported by all major fan groups including The Cardiff City Supporters Trust, The Cardiff City Supporters Club, Cardiff City Forum, Cardiff City Online, Bluebirds Unite and as far as Bluebirds Down Under (Australia).

Thousands of supporters are expected to attend this peaceful but passionate demonstration and all supporters groups, individual fans and their families are also invited and encouraged to join in. Route to be announced shortly (subject to police / local authority approval).

Objective

It is hoped Cardiff City Football Club and its owners will accept that the vast, overwhelming majority of its fans (and customers) passionately desire a return to our traditional blue home kit, and we ask the club to take positive steps to return us to blue in time for the 2015-16 Season. It is also hoped that the club recognise that by changing the home kit back to blue, it will, without question, have a huge positive impact on Cardiff City FC, not only as a Football Club, but as business and as a focal point of the community, making it a club that we can all once again be proud of together.

Blue Tuesday

A huge second follow-up event is to take place at Cardiff City’s home game against Brighton on Tuesday, February 10th. It will almost be 2 years to the day, that Cardiff last played Brighton on a cold, February Tuesday night, a night that many fans will never forget due to the red scarf give away.

This time, supporter groups will ask all fans to join them and take part in a massive celebration of blue inside the stadium. With an overwhelming display of blue kits, scarves and flags, we will take back our stadium and proudly restored blue as the true natural colour of Cardiff City Football Club..

Club pledge on away games kit after “white-out” at Bournemouth

Cardiff City chief executive Ken Choo has sent the following response to an email today from Trust chair, Tim Hartley, who raised issues over the white kit used at Bournemouth and possibilities of a season ticket boycott by fans.

​Hi Tim,

Many thanks for your email. I fully appreciate and understand your concerns and the concerns of the Trust. I would be happy to meet with you next week.

With regard to the use of the white kit, I must highlight to you that this was a footballing decision, based on compliance with FIFA, FA & Football League regulations that state a club must do all it can to ensure utmost clarity between playing kits.

A footballing decision was made that playing in blue at Bournemouth could make us non-compliant with this stipulation, a risk we couldn’t take and one which would could have had a detrimental effect to the team.

The fact remains, of course, that many of our supporters were deeply hurt by our decision to play in a white kit. I understand why some have perceived this as insensitive, something that we want to put right.

In this respect, I can give you the assurances of the club that it is our intention from this point onwards to play in blue away from home for the remainder of this season, starting at Charlton next up.

Should there be exceptions to this (which we don’t foresee, aside from potential clashes due to progression in the F.A. Cup), then I will personally speak to supporters bodies in advance of the fixture.

I hope this clears up some of the issues you are currently facing, Tim.

Regards,

Ken Choo