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Cardiff City Subsidise Travel to Watford

We’ve had this message from Adam Gilliatt, Supporter Liaison officer at Cardiff City FC:

Dear All,

You may have already seen that the Club will be subsidising coach travel for members of the travel group for our away fixture vs. Watford on December 15th. Further information here >> https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news/2018/november/watford-vs.-cardiff-city-subsidised-travel/

We have also agreed reciprocal pricing for this fixture >> https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news/2018/november/away-days—ticket-news-watford-vs.-cardiff-city/

The club will be paying a £600.00 subsidy for each coach travelling to Watford.

Thanks For Your Support, Foxes Trust tell Bluebirds fans and Cardiff City

We received the following letter from Leicester City’s Foxes Trust:

Dear Keith/Tim,

On behalf of the Foxes Trust and, more widely, of the whole Leicester City family, I would like to thank you for the support given to our club and our fans during the match at your stadium on Saturday, 3 November 2018.

It has been well-documented what an unusual, indeed unprecedented, occasion the match was likely to be. In the event, it was completed with great dignity, great solemnity and a true feeling of togetherness from the whole footballing community.

The people of Cardiff were magnificent to our travelling fans – yes, even those people whose main focus for the day was on certain rugby international. The provision of free food for our fans was a wonderful touch by Cardiff City. The pre-match ceremonies, including the exchange of flags, was done with great dignity. The players of both teams can hold their heads high that, despite the circumstances, they produced a properly competitive game of  football.

The scene at the end of the match, when Leicester City’s squad and staff came to be with the travelling fans was unlike anything any of us have witnessed before. For those Leicester fans who were at the game, it will be one they never forget. That 15-minutes will mean that for 3,000 Leicester fans, Cardiff, Cardiff City Football Club and the Cardiff City Stadium will always have a special place in our memories and our hearts.

We will also be sending a letter directly to Cardiff City Football Club, expressing the same sentiments.

Cardiff fans and on the day had created a memorable banner, which now has a prominent position in the place of remembrance for Khun Vichai at the King Power Stadium. It simply states, “Blue together”.

With thanks and respect,

Ian Bason,

Chairman – Foxes Trust

Cardiff City approve pre-Christmas bucket collection in aid of homelessness charity

Trust chair Keith Morgan

Cardiff City Football Club has kindly agreed to allow the Trust supported charity, The Wallich, to hold a bucket collection in aid of its vital work with homeless people across Wales.he bucket collection will take place before the headline match against Manchester United on Saturday, December 22nd.

Trust chairman, Keith Morgan, said: “We are thrilled at this generous gesture by the club and wish to thank chief executive, Ken Choo, for agreeing to the collection.

“The fact that the collection will be on the Saturday before Christmas is poignant because it is at this time of the year, probably more than any other, that the vulnerability of the less fortunate members of society comes into sharp focus.

“The Wallich, which started its work 40 years ago in Cardiff, is now giving help and advice to homeless and vulnerable people through 65 projects across Wales.

“We know how generous Cardiff City fans are – they’ve proved it time and time again over the years – and we’re sure they will support this worthwhile collection for homeless people. We hope to raise a sizeable sum for The Wallich’s crucial work.”

The Trust has chosen The Wallich as its charity for the current season.

Michael Cowley, fundraising and partnerships senior manager for The Wallich said: “We are really grateful to the Cardiff City Supporters’ Trust and the club for their support and the opportunity to promote the work of The Wallich at such a high-profile fixture.

“The money raised will help fund our Cardiff Nightshelter which offers safety, warmth and comfort to 23 people each night who would otherwise be forced to sleep rough.

“The Nightshelter provides a lifeline for some of the most vulnerable people in our community and with the support of Cardiff City Football Club, we can ensure that there is always someone there to offer support to those who need it most.”

Cardiff City Executive Director & CEO, Ken Choo, said: “Cardiff City FC is very pleased to be supporting the Supporters’ Trust’s chosen charity, The Wallich, again this winter.

“It cannot be understated how important The Wallich’s work is, particularly at this time of year, and we’ll be delighted to welcome and help them at our fixture with Manchester United in December.”

The Trust has chosen The Wallich as its charity for the current season.

 

Trust Cash Boost To Help Young

Trust chair Keith Morgan

Cardiff City Supporters’ Trust is delighted to announce that it has made a £3,000 donation to the work of the Cardiff City Foundation.

The Foundation is an independent charity set up by Cardiff City Football Club to help young people in the community offer opportunities for education, training and work, in addition, to encouraging a healthier lifestyle through sport.

Trust chair Keith Morgan said: “We are very pleased to support the valuable work of the foundation across south Wales and feel it is crucial that we also make a contribution to local society.

“The Trust’s contribution will fund one year of a BTEC Level 3 Diploma Course for a deserving young person and we wish the individual all the best in their future endeavours.”

Details about the BTEC Level 3 are available on the foundation’s website: httpss://www.cardiffcityfcfoundation.org.uk/btec-l3

Trust Chair At Premier League Fans Group

Trust chair Keith Morgan

Trust chair Keith Morgan attended a meeting of the FSF Premier League Fans Group in London last month.

Below are the minutes of the meeting detailing the discussions which included Away ticket price cap, Stand Up For Choice and Flexible Rail Tickets.

Attendees

Alan Wares (AW) – Albion Roar

Basil Thompson (BT) – Canal Street Blues

David Rose (DR) – The FSF

Deborah Dilworth (DDi) – Supporters Direct

Duncan Drasdo(DDr) – Manchester United Supporters Trust

George Mann (GM) – West Ham United Independent Supporters Association

Goronwy Brookes (GB) – Spirit of Shankly

John Ratomski(RM) – West Ham United Independent Supporters Association

Kat Law(KL) – Tottenham Hotspur Supporters’ Trust

Keith Morgan (KMo) – Cardiff City Supporters Trust

Kevin Miles (KMi) – The FSF

Kevin Parker (KPa) – Manchester City Official Supporters Club

Kevin Perrett (KPe) – Arsenal Independent Supporters’ Association

Krishnan Singh Kainth(KSK) – Wolverhampton Wanderers

Liam Hallinan (LH) – Claret Trust

Liz Costa (LC) – Brighton Hove Albion Supporters Club

Martin Cloake (MC) – Tottenham Hotspur Supporters Trust

Michael Brunskill (MB) – The FSF

Steph Jones (SJ)- Spirit of Shankly

Sue Maisey (SMa) – Crystal Palace Supporters Trust

Steve Moulds (SMo) – Leicester City Supporters Trust

Sue Watson (SW) – West Ham United Independent Supporters Association

Tim Payton (TP) – Arsenal Supporters Trust

Tim Rolls (TR) – Chelsea Supporters Trust

Tom Greatrex (TG) – Fulham Supporters Trust

Tony Scholes (TS) – Burnley FC Supporters Groups

Trevor Whitehead (TW) – Huddersfield Town Supporters Association

 Agenda

1. New FSF/SD organisation structure

  1. KMi outlines that all networks may follow electoral structure of this meeting. Premature to have an election today as merger hasn’t formally taken place but we will hold online election of three reps from this group which will be ratified at the new organisation’s AGM. Candidates from affiliated supporter groups. Nominations deadline will be 30th Oct (the EFL groups meet on 29th Oct) with each network (PL, Championship, L1/L2, National Game, Fans For Diversity) being given three delegate spaces. Also six spaces for individual members.
  2. TR asked about possibility of virtual meeting. KMi said it’s inaugural meeting so won’t be virtual – it’ll be central London Nov 22nd and Thursday PM was best to avoid fixtures clashes. TG said inaugural meeting required real world event but might be different in future once constitution is finalised (e.g. proxy votes etc). KW asks about promotion / relegation of teams – KMi says networks will need to have a byelection, although someone who has been voted to Board from National Council would still keep their board place for that term. TP asked about hierarchy – could the Council veto a Network decision? KMisays structure is AGM primacy, National Council, then networks but voice of PL Network will be listened to.
  3. The meeting was satisfied with the proposals as put forward by KMi.
  1. Away price cap
    1. KMichecks the room is still keen to press the PL for continuation of the £30 Away Cap (which is due to expire but we are keen to renew and noises from PL have been positive). Complicating factor that Scudamore is leaving and they haven’t finalised all broadcast packages yet (the Away Cap runs concurrently with three-year broadcast deals and the PL still has midweek streaming packages to sell). Everything usually agreed March/April but it might run into next season so an interim deal might be required. Away Cap top of our agenda but not necessarily theirs. General feeling that the cap has been a success for both the PL and fans.
    2. LC asks if we can push for “no to Amazon”. TP says that those games are additional broadcast games so no-one has to pay more than what they would now for the same amount of TV packages to access games. TR says a lot of fans think it’s great if it goes to Amazon as they already have Amazon Prime.
    3. DR reiterates that at the last PL meeting we asked, in terms of supporter initiatives from the 2019-2022 broadcast deal, for: 1. Retention of the £30 away price cap; 2. the introduction of a Young Adult category from 18-22; 3. the reduction of away tickets to £10 once a game was moved for TV.
    4. TS points out discrepancies in away prices for U22 / U18 etc and says he will share data with the FSF.
      1. Action – FSF to send TS prices spreadsheet around group.
      2. Action – FSF to chase PL for home young adult pricing.

 

  1. FA Cup ticket price campaign
    1. DR shares campaign paper which considers possible campaign around FA Cup final prices and introduction of maximum pricing in early rounds of the competition (there is a minimum price but no maximum).
    2. TP sceptical & argues priority should still be allocation sizes and points out that we’ve already had success in this area. KL says when on FA Council she was told no way they’d give up more tickets but £145 for Cup final tickets is excessive. KL concerned that if a max ticket price clubs will just see this as an excuse to push prices to that ceiling. KL concerned that FA/UEFA etc all using each other to benchmark / compare to other sporting events and push prices up which is dangerous for fans.
      1. Action – KL to send redistribution model
      2. Action – TG to send data on numbers of seats in each category for the semi-final once it’s supplied by the FA.
    3. MC says members are pushing back on pricing and FSE are highlighting price hikes in Europe too. We need to look at European comparisons and the cumulative cost of Cup runs and put the argument back on FA to come up with reasonable structure. TR agrees that while allocation is an issue main thing they get back is pricing.
    4. TP – go to FA Council and debate Wembley sale in the context of asking for cheaper Cup final price. TG agrees there is leverage between now and October’s Council meeting and Wembley sale survey needs to be done.
      1. Action – FSF to finalise Wembley survey (had been waiting on FA to provide info sheet to run alongside it).
      2. Action – Sub-group to formulate cross-league campaign.

 

  1. Stand Up For Choice
    1. KMi says small r review from DCMS looking at injury data in seated areas (does it not exist because it isn’t there or because there have been no injuries?). FSF has pushed for expert opinion to be admissible. Safety issue is now gone and it’s a debate around disorder (or not). The Atkins Report (for Trafford Council) might be the only one which exists and for the PL this is a customer care issue. 3 pilot clubs (BHA, Cardiff and Huddersfield) are offering reciprocal standing area zones. Making clear if you stand in certain blocks you will be asked to leave/move to other blocks where standing is tolerated. Visiting clubs aren’t engaging yet but the PL is supportive. Pragmatic approach to managing the issue of fans standing in seated areas.
    2. KMo – The big clubs have engaged with CCFC. The club didn’t sell all blocks against MCFC and offered some to away fans as seating only giving fans the option to move. KL asked if 250 (the block that left empty as seating only) comes out of away allocation. It does. LH asks what is a success in this scenario? KMi says that standing now seen as a customer care rather than security issue and that is positive. Original talk had been of a Sports Ground Safety Authority clampdown on standing but has been more progressive in recent times. TP encourages evidence gathering and engagement with other sports who do have standing. GM points out that we don’t know who doesn’t go now because they aren’t physically able to stand for 90 mins (i.e. lack of choice for seating only area means that can’t attend).
    3. DDr makes the point the removing legislative barriers could open up more options than just rail seats (e.g. modern terraces such as they have in Germany etc). KMi agrees and points out that it depends on architecture of each ground but standing is managed safely at Brentford/Burton etc. UEFA may also be revisiting their own regs to align them with local regulations rather than Europe wide rules (e.g. you could stand / drink beer in Germany at UEFA games).

 

  1. Publication of PL minutes
    1. MB explains background to delay in publishing notes of last PL meeting but they are now in public domain. In future MB / DR will meet PL officials straight after meeting and agree notes which will then be circulated around the attendees for comment. If all OK they will then be put into the public domain.
      1. Action – DR / MB / PL to meet straight after 11 Oct meet.
    2. DDi says Terms of Reference will be proposed to PL (and EFL / National League). Group to be given opportunity to comment.
      1. Action – DDi to share ToR around group.

 

  1. Flexible rail tickets
    1. KL outlines how she TR, Anna Burgess (Spirit of Shankly), and KMi met RosenaAllin-Khan MP,Richard Scudamore (PL),Bill Bush (PL) and the Rail Delivery Group(RDG) last autumn to discuss Fan Fare – a Labour Party idea to introduce flexible rail tickets which are pinned to a match fixture rather than a specific date. If a game is moved for TV the fan then doesn’t miss out. RDG told Rosena Allin-Khan it is progressing but we need to raise the issue with the PL. It’s not dead but how alive is it?

 

  1. La Liga / Game 39
    1. MB outlines FSF opposition to the concept of Game 39 and the FSF campaign which ran against it in 2008.
    2. MC points out that Spanish players opposed La Liga’s plans and asked what PFA would think of Game 39. TP points out La Liga plans still need approval of Spanish and US FAs. TR says it’s not just PL games to consider but FA Cup, League Cup, Community Shield etc. KMi says 2020 Champions League final could be in NYC, although it’s easier to get to than Baku, and says fans were offered incentives to accept games being moved (e.g. Girona fans offered free trips to NYC or 40% off next STs). PL did research into Thai fans and found fans in that country didn’t want PL games in Thailand – although they’d love to see a PL game in UK.

 

  1. Kick Off Times Working Group
    1. TR rounded up the KOTWG’s activity – next set of fixtures released Friday 12th KL said the success over stopping Christmas Eve games showed the benefits of fans working together. There isn’t necessarily activity day-to-day but it’s about being ready and pushing back when it happens.
      1. Action – TR to refresh and circulate KOTWG report.
      2. Action – MB to circulate Annual Review (KOTWG chapter)
    2. KMi says some games are being moved twice and we might be pushing at an open door for travel compensation if we focus on those instances. Clubs have compensated fans before (Everton, Swansea).
    3. KL / KPa discuss issues relating to Spurs-Man City fixture change.

 

  1. Structured dialogue survey results
    1. DDi – headline stats are that 85% supporter groups are meeting with clubs twice per year. 82% meeting the right people. 25% of clubs are not showing suitable levels of information.Still waiting on PL to send document to clubs alongside FSF/SD one page briefing on structured dialogue.
    2. TP asks for follow up on letter sent to Sports Minister in October 2017.
      1. Action – DDi to check with relevant staff for response.

 

  1. AOB
    1. TS thanks fans on the group who helped with his queries ahead of Burnley’s Europa League campaign.
    2. MC references Amanda Jacks’ positive work in setting up Independent Advisory Group at forces including the Met, Manchester, Liverpool and West Midlands. Get involved in your local area, contact Amanda.
    3. KMi says Home Secretary Sajid Javid may attempt to get clubs to increase contribution towards policing costs. We oppose such moves, clubs already pay their share and extra costs may be passed onto fans. We’re on the same page as PL on this issue.

 

Trust Quiz Boost To Homeless Charity

A quiz run in aid of the homeless charity Wallich has raised £371 for their vital work helping the vulnerable.

The event was staged at The Three Arches pub in Cardiff and pictured with representatives from the charity is Rob Jeffery, Trust Company Secretary.

The board chose the Wallich from a list of charities suggested by members.

The 300 Wallich workers can often be seen on the streets of Cardiff and elsewhere giving help and advice to homeless and vulnerable people through 65 projects across Wales. They have been providing accommodation and support services for the homeless since 1978, starting with a 20-bed hostel in Cardiff.

Rob Jeffery said: “Thanks to everyone who attended the quiz night for their support of such a worthwhile charity. Everyone who walks the streets of Cardiff and Wales generally is aware of the major homelessness problem and the Trust is pleased to be supporting such important work by the Wallich.”

  • The Trust has asked the club to allow a bucket collection for The Wallich and its work with the homeless on a match day.